Iran, page 1

it's getting more complicated everyday .. Iran is standing against the U.S. and going on their nuclear program .. so what do you think ? will we see another war soon ? .. personally I don't think that America will take that risk .. cause Iran is NOT Iraq ... Iraq was occupied easily cause there were alot of people against Saddam so they helped America .. but Irani people hates America and they are all standing behind Nejad supporting him and his policy ... so what I'm saying is if the U.S. started a war against Iran, the doors of hell will be opened .. why?

Iran have a very strong army that will make any occuption operation nearly impossible

They have alot of FAKE nuclear sites in different locations, and the real ones are built deep underground

If the U.S. attempts to do any air strike or tomhawk missle attack, the reaction of Iran will be very dangerous, they have plenty of balistic missles from 500-3000 km range, so thousands of American soldiers in Iraq besides the many American bases in Gulf area will be in their firing range .. including Israel too

It's impossible for the U.S. to get the security council support for any militrian strike against Iran, because China and Russia have alot of common relations with Iran and they WILL use "Vito" ... is that what America was ALWAYS and still doing for Israel ?!!

If the U.S. and Europe attempt to isolate Iran from the international community and apply any political, economical, social punishments .. that will push Iran to stop pumping their Oil to America and Europe and you can imagine how much will be a gallon of gas

Iran didn't have the nuclear bomb yet, but in a few months, they will .. so they are just gaining some time

i think shish could start, and that is highly depends on Bush, stupid bush, that knows that americans won't elect him again (and he can't do more than 2 times i think). so he wants himself to be "remembered", crazy asshole. but you're right: russia and china, plus israeli nearby, and gaz is a very importans one too, - americans should not attack iran. and army is another great reason here, since army will do its role right - stop any fast invasion.

the Irani revolution guards are said to be the strongest fighters in the world plus ... what I guess from now is one of two

stupid Bush will hold his horses and think about the shit he already brought to his country .. and then Iran will continue the program and in a few months, they will have their first nuclear bomb

Bush will attack Iran anyway .. and actually it's so hard to guess the results and the reactions .. but probably it will lead America to some dark future

Personally I believe that stretigic attacks against nuclear sites will be undertaken by Israel if the USA does not.  Israel did this against Iraq during the 1980's.  If anyone thinks that Iran will get a nuclear weapon with the capabilities of hitting Tel Aviv they are sadly mistaken.  Israel will not allow it.  Israel allowed Iraq to fire scud missles at Tel Aviv only under extreme duress from the USA who was in the process of occupying Iraq.  I have friends who were in basements wearing gasmasks on those days in Tel Aviv. Israel will not allow nuclear weapons to be aimned at there country under the guidence of such a nation as Iran.  Personally I believe in Self Determination.  Self determination is a necessity for the individual as well as the nation.  But when A nation such as Iran threatens a country,as it will do to Israel, one countries self determination, Israel, is being treatened.  Now this does not mean that I am pro USA.  They have been and are threatening others self determination all around the globe and that is wrong, and under international law is illegal.  But then again the USA does not respect international law and I believe it will never.  And I beleive Bush jr. is crazy enough to start a ground war with Iran  

The USA respects only what serve (USA + Israel) buisness  ... and about Iran, I don't think an Air Strike will be that easy for Israel to destroy Irani nuclear sites .. first, Iran is NOT Iraq .. second, Irani sky is not that open .. third, Irani nuclear sites are hidden deep underground (some people says more than 1 km) .. last, what about Iran reaction if Israel did that strike ?? .. do you think they will just surrender ??, I don't think so ... they have plenty of high tech balistic missles and don't tell me Israel have alot of anti missles systems (Arrow, Patriot ...etc) cause if I was Iran .. I will launch 50 missles destination Tel Aviv .. at this case, it will be impossible to drop all of them ..

I quess we will just have to wait and see.  I am not a general but I do know about politics and war.  I also know that unilateral action seems to be a thing of the past.  One never knows what is around the corner.  I.E. The population of the USA was shocked by september 11.  For us in america we were used to unilateral ground to ground fighting.  With a few stratigic dealings by the CIA.  While the fundamentalists of the Middle East and Asia, and a little bit in Ireland were changing war while we watched on. It seems to me that the US and Israel will just not let it happen.  THEY WILL DO SOMETHING.  Like I said I do not allways, very rarely side with the us in foreign or domestic affairs.  I was once part of the YCL here in the states.  You being a commisar should know who the YCL are  Back to the subject.... Iran has illuded the US before, I.E. the Carter administration and might possibly do it again.  But, mark my words if Israel is attacked by land sea or air, and then they retaliate. Then they, will not need, but will get the help of the Us troops in iraq.  And Tactical nuclear weapons will most likley be used.  I know that you and all of us know that Iran is different the Iraq and that is obvious.  They have been like Che was when he was alive.  They were and are all about exporting the revolution to any area of the world possible.  Castro finally let Che, after killing Cien Fuegos for the same reason.  I.E. Che's campaigns in Africa and Then Bolivia, Both failed.  The most important fact is that NOT ALL OF THE MIDDLE EAST IS SHITTE.  The rebels in Iraq and a great deal of the middle east are mostly Shitte.  Iraq and Iran, may I remind you fought one of the ugliest wars in history over the Sunni ,Shitte question.  Shittes and Sunnis, have and will have differences and that is another factor in the Middle East.  Iran being almost all Shitte will have a problem converting Sunnis and moderate Islamic peoples of the Middle East to there side.
Geo-politicly Iran is a mess.  I agree with you there.  The mountinos territories of Iran are large and would be difficult to navigate for US ground troops.  But on the other hand they are getting training for that in Afganistan. ....Anyways this is all mental masterbation.... And you commisar should be converting the workers and peasants to the cuase and luanching a world wide revolution of your own  Communism in all its forms is not about talk it's about ACTION, So Get Going!!!

my friend ... I'm NOT a communist anyway :) .. I hate communism because it's a very sick policy and the USSR is a very obvious example ... but let me tell you somethings about America

I don't hate America, actually most of american people are so friendly and nice, just care about living, entertainment, sports .. they know nothing about the external world .. and this is an old american policy - is to isolate the american people from the other world - so the american administration can take any actions they want, I really hate most of the American Administrations all around .. and also I have to say, America is not governed by the president, not at all, a lopy of some bad people are controlling everything .. look only for America and Israel sake .. ignoring anything else, ignoring even humanity

The Arabian Gulf Area, what about it? it contains 71% of the total reserved OIL in the world, and the other 29% are distributed all over the world, so what? .. so the U.S. will not feel an y safe except when it controls this area completely .. let me tell you that the Iran vs Iraq war was pushed by the CIA (Proved after from released top secret CIA documentations) and the target is to weaken both of the strongest countries in this area, so the U.S. will be able to settle in this area without any problems .. that was the first stage in a big tactical plan .. the second stage was to find a sensable reason so Americas can put their feet in the area, and so they said to Saddam (Iraq and U.S. was having good relations at this time) that Kuwait is stealing his oil and blah blah blah .. they pushed him to invade Kuwait then the rest you know, Gulf War 1 .. then 10 years of isolations, then Gulf War II and now America as you see (ignoring any losses) has full control over the whole area and OIL as well .. also protecting Israel

Let's get back in memories some years ago .. World War II .. I'm saying this to give you an obvious example about how the American administration think all among history .. let's remember what happened .. Nazis started the war and occupied most of Europe, UK was saved from occupation ONLY because they are an Island in the sea .. this happened in years, while America was just watching from the couch ...  also Nazis signed a non-agression pact with the USSR .. Italy was taking care of Lybia and north africa .. Nazis were taking over the whole world with only the poor U.K. trying to stop with no success .. and the U.S. also still watching with no response, Sir Winston Churchill visited the white house many times and was begging the Americans to save the world, about to kiss their shoes!!! .. but with no respose ..

why?

1) They had no buisness with all of that, they lost nothing .. so why do they bother fighting for other people and lose alot of soldiers and money .. very selfish point of view

2) They know that sooner or later, this war will come to an end, as Nazis will not stay with that power and strength all the time, they must drop to weakness with the continous resistance from UK and the GREAT frensh resistance

3) So why do they face Nazis while they are very strong, it's better to wait till they start getting weak and at the right moment, America was going to be involved in the War with all confidence that they will succeed to stop Nazis when they are not at peak power, and as a result, they will gain everything they want, Stop the Nazis and appear like the great saviors infront of the world, gain alot of money, social, militrian and economical profits .. at the same time .. all of this will happen with the minimum losses and costs

4) but is that what really happened? NO .. something out of all their calculations had happened ... Japanese attacked Pearl Harbour in 7 December 1941 and destroyed most of the American Navy .. at this moment .. America couldnot stand to stay watching .. they must have take a step and yet they anounced war against Germany, Japan and Italy

But let me also tell you that it's not like all people think until now .. they think that America was the savior of the world in WWII and they defeated Germany .. I say that America defeated Japan, I admit .. but not Germany .. so who did ?

The main and maybe ONLY mistake that Hitler did is when he attacked the sleeping polar bear (USSR) although he signed a pact with them, he attacked them in a very stupid action and kept occuping the Soviet land until he reached just about 3 Km from Moscow .. but by that time, the winter came and only the russians who can stand their very hard winter, so that was the start of the Nazi end .. the soviet started to push them back to their land ..

So Germany was defeated by the blood of 20 Million Soviet soldier who sacrified their lives for their land and the world .. must also mention that that the soviet soldiers were the first to reach the Reichstag in the heart of Berlin

Must mention that The U.S. soldiers played a GREAT role to push Nazis out of France and holland as we all know about the Great D-Day ..

One more thing to say, actually a thing that make me always feel so sad about how people don't care about human lives and don't give a fuck about other people except their own .. I'm talking about what America did with Japan ... Germany surrendered, Hitler suicided .. Italy surrendered too .. only Japan left, who is the mother fucking stupid who think that Japan was to continue the war !!!! .. against who? the whole victorious world !!!! .. NON Sense .. so why the fuck America dropped their first two nuclear bombs on Hiroshima and Hagazaky killing MILLIONS of innocent people !!! .. why?


1) American scientists invented the most dangerous weapon in history which is the Nuclear bomb .. two different types, each has different technology, first is the Atomic Bomb which depends on nuclear fusion, and second is Hydrogenatic Bomb which depends on nuclear fission ... as you invent or create a new weapon, you must be wanting to know what it can do, what is the results, how far is the effectivness? is it really powerful as the papers say? so what happened in Japan was just A FUCKING AMERICAN EXPERIMENT .. an experiment that cost the lives of million Japaneese people .. and they did bombed two different cities .. because they wanted to try both the atomic and hydroginatic to know which is better and stronger !!!

2) America wanted to announce to the world that they now had the strongest weapon in the World, and no other country can even dare to face them .. they wanted the world to know that the Map has been changed and the American Empire has started to rise up .. but Rosenberg has another opinion .. and this is another story



sorry man, I didnt want to be that long .. but I really wanted to clear that points too

i just had a vision.. 100s of us supersonis airplanes flying really low above the ground now to be hit by air defense of iran, each carries a huge bomb that will go right into the tunnel schacht leading to main labs of each of 11 nuclear sites... this must be performed in one reid, because otherwise israeli will be erased off the earth 10 minutes from now... the only matter is to do it, to get the bomb into the tunnel, like in star wars, luke blew the death star...

One more thing to say ... there is a rule saying: "as long as there is only one force .. so there will be NO equilibrium, therefore no judgement" .. another rule says : "for every action there is a distinct reaction, equal in magnitude, opposite in direction"   .. If anybody is smart enough to merge the two rules together then link them to our real life .. then he will realise we are living in a really big mess .. and the future is nearly dark  

commisar dont u get tired of typing... even im too lazy to read it

i really admire the fact, that although this is a music site, u  people still open up subjects concerned with poilitics and stuff other than music.

no I never feel tired of typing as long as it's something I believe






Life is not only music ..

...Exactly

You know the u.s has weapons that are capable of doing almost exactly this, Except they are not attached to x-wings, and luke is not the pilot, It's deffinatley possible though, They are called "bunker busters"  and they use laser guided systems that can are accurate within centameters.  They don't need the "force" anymore  And thinking Iran has 11 Nuclear sites is a little far fetched

ok dave one more word out of u and im droping MY nulear bomb on ur house